McCarthy says He Found ‘Common Ground’ With Biden in Debt Meeting

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) talks to reporters after he met with U.S. President Joe Biden to discuss the federal debt limit and spending, at the White House in Washington, U.S., February 1, 2023. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Joe Biden and Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy held initial talks on Wednesday about raising U.S. government borrowing limits in a first test of how the two will work together, with both sides agreeing to talk more.

The White House said after the meeting that Biden told McCarthy he was eager to work with Republicans “in good faith.” McCarthy said that the two men could find common ground. But, as expected, there was no sign of an immediate breakthrough.

“The president and I had a good first meeting,” McCarthy told reporters after the more-than-hour-long meeting. He said the two men shared their perspective with each other. “I can see where we can find common ground,” he said.

The Democratic president and Republicans, who won control of the U.S. House of Representatives in November’s elections, are locked in a standoff over raising the federal government’s $31.4 trillion U.S. debt ceiling.

“President Biden made clear that, as every other leader in both parties in Congress has affirmed, it is their shared duty not to allow an unprecedented and economically catastrophic default,” the White House said in a statement. “It is not negotiable or conditional.”

The Oval Office talks may serve as the opening bell for months of back-and-forth maneuvering. Neither side expects a solution to emerge from a single meeting. Without action, the government could lose its ability to pay all its bills as early as June.

McCarthy was optimistic, however, that such a scenario could be avoided.

“I believe if we’re able to get to an agreement, we could have a funding agreement for the next two years,” McCarthy said. “You’ll see the Senate and the House actually do the job the American public has elected us to do.”

Biden said earlier he will ask McCarthy for a specific budget plan and a commitment to supporting the nation’s debt obligations, the White House said, and he will discuss federal spending cuts with Republicans, but only after the debt ceiling is lifted.

“Show me his budget!” Biden told reporters on Tuesday when asked if he would negotiate with McCarthy.

House Republicans want to use the debt ceiling as leverage to exact cuts, though they have yet to unite around a specific plan. The increase covers the costs of spending programs and tax cuts previously approved by Congress, and is usually approved on a bipartisan basis.

CONTRASTS

The 80-year-old president, a longtime former senator who served as vice president during a similar 2011 showdown that led to a historic downgrade of the federal government’s credit rating, enters the talks with what some of his aides believe is a strong hand that includes a narrow Senate majority, a party that is unified on this issue and a strong message for voters.

Speaker for less than a month, McCarthy, 58, leads a fractious House Republican caucus with a narrow 222-212 majority that has given a small group of hardline conservatives outsized influence.

Despite years of mingling with other Washington lawmakers, Biden has little personal history with McCarthy, who joined the Republican leadership on Capitol Hill under former Speaker John Boehner after Biden had already left to become Barack Obama’s vice president.

U.S. DEBT IS DIFFERENT

Unlike most other developed countries, the United States puts a hard limit on how much it can borrow, and Congress must periodically raise that cap because the U.S. government spends more than it takes in.

Minutes before the White House meeting, Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell told reporters: “There is only one way forward here and that’s for Congress to raise the debt ceiling.

“No one should assume that the Fed can protect the economy from the consequences of failing to act in a timely manner,” Powell said.

The 2011 crisis was resolved with a bipartisan deal that cut spending and raised the debt limit but left Obama administration officials smarting.

McCarthy has less room to maneuver than his Republican counterpart in 2011 did.

To win the speaker’s gavel, he agreed to enable any single member to call for a vote to unseat him, which could lead to his ouster if he seeks to work with Democrats. He also placed three hardline conservatives on the Rules Committee, which would allow them to block any vote on a compromise.

Biden seemed to question McCarthy’s ability to keep Republicans in line at a fundraiser in New York on Tuesday, calling McCarthy “a decent man, I think,” but noting the concessions he made to become speaker.

McCarthy, for his part, said Biden needed to be willing to make concessions to get a debt-ceiling increase through Congress, saying it would be “irresponsible” not to negotiate.

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